091 | The New Covenant Gospel: A Conversation With Matt McMillen

Welcome to episode 91 of The Grace Cafe Podcast. This episode is an energized conversation with Matt McMillen about the New Covenant and our identity in Jesus. God’s opinion of us is the first thing that gets obscured by organized religion. Here’s a sample of where our conversation took us:

  • The New Covenant and the gospel.
  • Dealing with bitterness and anger.
  • Growing in grace, maturing, and change.
  • Mixing the Old and New Covenants.
  • Setting boundaries.
  • The Christian’s identity.
  • Theology, spiritual gifts, religious hierarchy and the simplicity of the gospel.
  • Top-down authority in religious systems.
  • When did the New Covenant begin?
  • We’ve died to the law.
  • Life under law and life in the Spirit.
  • We’ve died to sin and we can be ourselves.
  • Grace is our life, not an add-on.
  • Rest
  • Social media.
  • Religion Free Movement.

Matt has authored several books with more on the way. Yes, we talked about those too. You’ll find Matt on-line at:

Matt McMillen Ministries

Grab your favorite beverage, get comfortable and join the conversation. 


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090 | Take Five: My Little Children, Remember

“My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.” (1 John 2:1-2)

Did you catch that? John, using a term of gentle affection (little children), tells us that when we sin… remember. Remember what we already have in Jesus, the forgiveness of sins. “I am writing to you, little children, because your sins are forgiven for his name’s sake.” (1 John 2:12)

We get ourselves all worked up over sin because we think we’re supposed to confess all of our sins over and over again up to this point in time in order to be forgiven all over again up to this point in time. We don’t read past 1 John 1:9 and its context into chapter 2 to see what John tells believers to do when they sin: Remember. Let’s talk about it in this edition of Take Five


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089 | A Look Back At An Unexpected Decade

Happy New Year! Welcome to episode 89 of The Grace Cafe Podcast. In this episode we take a look back at our own journey over the past decade and our trek out of performance-based Christianity. It’s been 10+ years of healing for us after having left the different religious environments in 2009 that we were a part of for many years. 

We know many of you are on similar journeys out of toxic religious experiences and we hope our podcast provides a safe place for you to process your own experience. We hope this episode will encourage, strengthen, and remind you of the hope and love that is yours in Jesus. Click Play to listen in.


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088 | Am I Obedient Enough?

Welcome to episode 88 of The Grace Cafe Podcast. In this episode, we catch you up on some of the things that have been going on with us personally, eventually landing on the topic of obedience. But along the way we talk about Christmas, Mike’s skin cancer diagnosis (not the bad kind thankfully) and his experience under the doctor’s knife, the future of this podcast, other podcasts we enjoy and recommend, and our gratitude to you for allowing us to be a part of your lives and for listening to our show.

Links to other sites/podcasts we recommend in this episode:

We’ll be back in 2020!


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087 | A Frank Discussion About Women in the Church

Welcome to episode 87 of The Grace Cafe Podcast. Sarah Knaub joins Susan in this episode as they talk about the church’s dismissive view of women. This excellent conversation was prompted by John MacArthur’s “go home” statement directed toward Beth Moore. Susan and Sarah’s conversation is loaded with rich and important content. Roles, submission, spiritual gifts, personal preference, teaching, marriage, men, children, strength, and theology are just a few of the topics this episode covers. Push play and join the conversation. Share it with a friend and subscribe in your favorite podcast app or on iHeartRadio.

We interviewed Sarah once before in episode 18 where we talked about the church and mental illness.

-Enjoy!


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086 | Preach The Word?

Welcome to episode 86 of The Grace Cafe Podcast. The phrase “the Word of God” appears several times in the New Testament. I had always heard and believed that “the Word of God’ was a reference to the Bible. I assumed that the Bible is the Word of God and that the phrase “the Word of God” was another way of saying the Bible. When Paul told Timothy to preach the word, it’s assumed he meant preach the Bible. 

But the Bible never calls itself the Word of God. That phrase is reserved in Scripture for Jesus (Rev. 19:13) and the gospel (1 Thessalonians 2:9, 13), as determined by context. Tradition has given the Bible the title, the Word of God, but the Bible itself never does.

That topic is sandwiched in the middle of this episode from our old Known & Loved podcast that originally aired in March of 2017 and was a conversation that took us in several directions. Shout out to our friend Rocky Glenn in this episode who wrote us a letter that we interacted with. We hope this episode encourages you.


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085 | Labels, Assumptions, And Finding The Courage to Question

Welcome to episode 85 of The Grace Cafe Podcast. We’ve had some recent conversations with others who’ve related their stories to us about how asking honest questions resulted in being shunned, shamed, and even asked to leave the group they were in. When our journeys take a turn away from performance and toward a more genuine experience with grace, the resulting freedom that accompanies that experience is scary to those who haven’t discovered it yet and asking questions or expressing new opinions based on your new-found freedom, is a threat to those in charge or those whose journey is all about performance.

Let’s talk about it.


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084 | Take Five: Does Truth Balance Grace?

Welcome to episode 84 of The Grace Cafe Podcast. When John wrote, “For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ” (John 1:17), was he giving us a formula to keep grace in check with truth? Does grace need balanced with truth in order to keep it manageable? Is truth somehow opposed to the free operation of grace? I lost count years ago of the number of times I’ve heard John’s words explained this way.

Let’s talk about it in this edition of Take Five.


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